to
answer, what happens if you date someone and you aren't too sure of
their music? you have fun fighting about it till the death!!!
(PS we both thought this chat was hilarious and i got permission to share)
basically
i call him shallow and obvious and he calls me a niche snob. his best
line is about 1982 and ibiza. that's good making fun. and i have
"opening DJ syndrome"
itsalona (1:55:36 PM): listening to your discobelle mix at work ![:-)]()
Abel wanted to listen to something. it's just me and him and it's sooo quiet
itsalona (2:00:16 PM): you
have good timing in your transitions. like me. basically we are both
awesome, it would be impossible to decide who is more so
itsalona (2:04:37 PM): honey, i really like your discobelle mix. sorry I'm just getting around to it! xoxoxoxo
itsalona (2:07:37 PM): does freaky motherfucker sample is it all voer my face?
itsalona (2:11:21 PM): i could do without the SOS song
itsalona (2:11:45 PM): i dont hear how you edited it....
itsalona (2:23:31 PM): you
make your mixes to appeal to a broad spectrum don't you... I feel like
you are throwing in some obvious tunes just to ensure more people will
digest it easily
itsalona (2:23:45 PM): quantity rather than quality?
itsalona (2:23:55 PM): i hope i'm not being too critical
itsalona (2:24:10 PM): it doesn't matter since you obviously fell asleep at your desk or somtehing
ericattik (2:24:38 PM): hey hey
ericattik (2:25:14 PM): 1) yes, I do put some "obvious" joints in everything because I don't dj just for other djs...
ericattik (2:25:28 PM): because most people, SOS is semi obscure
ericattik (2:25:50 PM): djing for djs is like masterbating, it is only for you
ericattik (2:26:11 PM): its for ego and that is it
ericattik (2:26:22 PM): and its a jam
itsalona (2:27:15 PM): I think there are a lot of people out there that do not DJ and know a lot about music
ericattik (2:27:24 PM): as far as the edit, it just cut down the track and made the arrangement more dj palatable, added drums to hit harder
itsalona (2:27:25 PM): I think you are underestimating your audience and patronizing them
itsalona (2:27:39 PM): and preventing them from growing
ericattik (2:27:41 PM): that song will get a party poppin though
itsalona (2:27:42 PM): and learning something new
itsalona (2:27:53 PM): not at any party i play at
ericattik (2:27:58 PM): well I think the other 23 songs do that
ericattik (2:28:33 PM): there are a ton of people that know jack shit about disco
ericattik (2:28:41 PM): and only listen to hip hop
itsalona (2:28:44 PM): right
ericattik (2:28:47 PM): that will DL our mix
itsalona (2:28:55 PM): yeah but that song is played on like 98.1
itsalona (2:29:01 PM): and has been for 20 years
ericattik (2:29:02 PM): and maybe that can be bait to get them into our other shit
itsalona (2:29:17 PM): i think you are super underestimating your audience
ericattik (2:29:30 PM): yeah so het em there and they may buy something we put out later
itsalona (2:29:32 PM): or underestimating their ability to appreciate
ericattik (2:29:43 PM): what the fuck is Zapp Band
ericattik (2:29:46 PM): same shit
ericattik (2:29:50 PM): but it is a jam
itsalona (2:30:08 PM): i own it but wouldnt play it out
itsalona (2:30:15 PM): except at a wedding or office party
ericattik (2:30:17 PM): I dislike the record store clerk attitude of it is only good if it is unknown
itsalona (2:30:23 PM): thats not my point at all
ericattik (2:30:26 PM): sometimes I like comfort food
itsalona (2:30:39 PM): my point is that instead of catering to them, giving them what they want - give them something they didnt know they wanted
ericattik (2:30:46 PM): and when I play atomic dog, I enjoy it
itsalona (2:30:47 PM): and you have truly provided something ownderful
itsalona (2:30:52 PM): ok
ericattik (2:30:53 PM): and people get down
itsalona (2:30:55 PM): we will differ
ericattik (2:30:56 PM): in the club
itsalona (2:30:59 PM): ![;-)]()
ericattik (2:31:30 PM): but I think you can sprinkle hit in with obscure and vice versa
ericattik (2:31:38 PM): it all depends on the crowd
itsalona (2:31:51 PM): you and i also have different ideas of where that line is
itsalona (2:31:57 PM): it's ok, i dont want to come off too harsh
itsalona (2:32:03 PM): i'm just being honest... :-/
ericattik (2:32:10 PM): no I like it
itsalona (2:32:13 PM): are you sure?
itsalona (2:32:18 PM): i dont want to hurt your feelings
itsalona (2:32:37 PM): and i'm totally ok with you having different ideas or opinions than me
ericattik (2:32:48 PM): and
a mix that is made for a very popular web site is like playing a
underground festival – you will have heads and "joe smoe" all listening
itsalona (2:32:48 PM): or tastes or whatever, i'm totally fine with it
ericattik (2:33:01 PM): I like pop and sprinkling jams
ericattik (2:33:07 PM): its party music
itsalona (2:33:11 PM): i'm all about you rockin yo shit, which ever way it is
itsalona (2:33:20 PM): yeah you are a party jams kinda guy ![;-)]()
itsalona (2:33:24 PM): i totally said that aboutyou
itsalona (2:33:38 PM): but hey, maybe i just have opening dj syndrome
ericattik (2:33:55 PM): well, it depends on where you play
ericattik (2:36:03 PM): I
just don't like the idea of not playing certain tracks that I feel are
good just because 45% of the crowd really knows that song
ericattik (2:36:22 PM): just like if only 5% of the people only know it does it make it better
ericattik (2:36:35 PM): it is all okay
itsalona (2:36:40 PM): i just cant play songs that have become played out to me
itsalona (2:36:43 PM): i just cant do it
ericattik (2:37:08 PM): and that is okay - but I am far from a niche dj
itsalona (2:37:12 PM): its like pokers in my eyeballs, AND I cant genuinly move behind the decks without being sarcastic
itsalona (2:37:41 PM): i
feel like i have to play what i am currently feeling, in order to
project my enthusiasm correctly - and i think that is half of being the
DJ your personal enthusiasm for presenting
ericattik (2:37:47 PM): but I bet most the tracks on that mix only sold 5000 units
ericattik (2:37:49 PM): if that
ericattik (2:37:59 PM): so I know i am far from a commercial dj
ericattik (2:39:07 PM): I figure I hace close to 10,000 songs at my disposal in any set so I don't have to worry to hard about that
itsalona (2:39:38 PM): i feel like you are pretty commercial
ericattik (2:39:43 PM): HA
itsalona (2:39:45 PM): i feel like SOS is pretty dang commercial
ericattik (2:40:02 PM): and what else aside from the talking heads!
ericattik (2:40:32 PM): like fuck unless it was a one off single from 1982 it is commercial!
itsalona (2:41:04 PM): dont get mad
ericattik (2:41:13 PM): im not really
ericattik (2:41:21 PM): this is a awesome discussion
ericattik (2:41:46 PM): and trust that most the people in any audience could not sing the words to the Talking Heads song
ericattik (2:42:22 PM): hahahaha
ericattik (2:42:45 PM): I swear I am enjoying this
itsalona (2:44:01 PM): k
ericattik (2:44:15 PM): I
feel much like I think you are limited in the scope of range you will
play you feel I am too loose in range... but it is all good... it would
suck if we did the same thing
ericattik (2:45:15 PM): I do really like your selection
ericattik (2:45:20 PM): and it works for you
ericattik (2:45:32 PM): really well
ericattik (2:46:25 PM): while for me – I don't like to play too niche
ericattik (2:46:48 PM): and I feel your opinion of what is popular is much different than mine
ericattik (2:47:12 PM): although I accept your point that I may under estimate some things
itsalona (2:47:52 PM): that is funny.
itsalona (2:48:06 PM): what you said up here, i feel like it's the opposite!
itsalona (2:48:19 PM): like YOUR scope is too narrow because you are sticking to well known easy to digest things
itsalona (2:48:26 PM): instead of broadening your horizons
itsalona (2:48:28 PM): hahaha
itsalona (2:48:41 PM): this is hilarious
ericattik (2:48:42 PM): but you consider a Green Velvet b-side commercial!
itsalona (2:48:56 PM): ok if you put it that way it sounds a bit nuts
ericattik (2:49:03 PM): even techno heads don't play that track!
ericattik (2:49:18 PM): I googled it and couldn't find one mix with it
ericattik (2:49:26 PM): and it is semi new
itsalona (2:49:41 PM): did I say that track was commercail?
itsalona (2:50:06 PM): i'm just not too into green velvet that's all
ericattik (2:50:12 PM): okay let me quote "sticking to well known"
itsalona (2:50:27 PM): it's hard to define why i do or don't like something, but the reason isn't always "its commercial"
ericattik (2:50:54 PM): well but that is just taste
itsalona (2:50:54 PM): mostly i just had to stop your mix at the SOS band
ericattik (2:51:32 PM): see you are very fast to stop something because of one track... like what about what happens AFTER that?
ericattik (2:51:46 PM): like when do I hear a mix and like EVERY track
ericattik (2:51:48 PM): NEVER
itsalona (2:51:59 PM): i do all the time
ericattik (2:52:30 PM): hear a mix?
ericattik (2:52:40 PM): that you like every song?
itsalona (2:52:58 PM): yeah
ericattik (2:53:15 PM): like within your itty bitty sub genre
itsalona (2:53:17 PM): i almost always stop mixes if i hear a song i dont like...next!
ericattik (2:53:20 PM): of a sub genre
ericattik (2:53:28 PM): you are NUTS
itsalona (2:53:36 PM): YOU ARE NUTS!!!!
ericattik (2:54:01 PM): ha. so you won't like a dj if they play one song you dislike!
itsalona (2:54:05 PM): why would i listen to something i dont like? WHY
ericattik (2:54:29 PM): to expand you rhorizens with what is next
ericattik (2:54:32 PM): !
itsalona (2:54:40 PM): ACK!
ericattik (2:55:19 PM): well I can say that if I had that judgement system I would like no dj ever
itsalona (2:55:48 PM): thats not whats going down
itsalona (2:56:03 PM): i was referring more to mix cds, or mp3 mixes
itsalona (2:56:11 PM): playing out people get a lot more leeway
itsalona (2:56:21 PM): and believe me i think this way about everyone
itsalona (2:56:24 PM): not just you
ericattik (2:56:31 PM): yeah but then you never hear what is next!
itsalona (2:56:52 PM): i might skip one track but if there are two i have to skip through, I'm assuming person is not on my page
itsalona (2:56:56 PM): or i'm not on theirs
ericattik (2:57:02 PM): hahahahaha
itsalona (2:57:22 PM): you are talking about 'hearing what is next'
itsalona (2:57:32 PM): how are you going to hear new shit if you are listening to played out funk tunes!
ericattik (2:57:36 PM): well, I doubt you will ever get through one of my mixes
itsalona (2:57:41 PM): you are wasting your time on what could be spent learning something new!
itsalona (2:58:12 PM): and yeah i will have a hard time with your mixes
ericattik (2:58:15 PM): because it is a dj mix!
itsalona (2:58:16 PM): because i am not your audience
ericattik (2:58:28 PM): and the song changes every 2 minutes!
itsalona (2:58:37 PM): if you are trying to throw party jams at me
itsalona (2:58:54 PM): let's hoep tonight works out!
itsalona (2:59:04 PM): we should have a party and call it 'clash of the titans!'
itsalona (2:59:09 PM): lolololol
ericattik (2:59:26 PM): well I am not trying to shoot herion and nod off on the beach in Ibiza in 1982 but I like some of you songs!
itsalona (2:59:36 PM): dayum!
ericattik (2:59:51 PM): so I listen and ignore what I don't like and take notes on what I do
ericattik (2:59:53 PM): HAHAHA
itsalona (3:00:16 PM): you are just fucking me to get some new influence arent you
ericattik (3:00:25 PM): HAHAHA
ericattik (3:00:39 PM): I could just check u-terns blog instead
ericattik (3:01:02 PM): and cut out the bullshit![;)]()
itsalona (3:01:08 PM): ok this stings now
ericattik (3:01:20 PM): ahh comeon it is playful fun
ericattik (3:01:34 PM): it is good to be fiesty with each other
ericattik (3:02:24 PM): and in the meantime I will rob all the tracks I like of yours and you can keep being my sexy record snob
ericattik (3:02:34 PM): ![:-*]()
<3
ericattik (3:02:57 PM): my high fidelity lover
ericattik (3:03:12 PM): you are the jack black to my john cusack
ericattik (3:03:43 PM): p.s. I am totally saving this chat
itsalona (3:03:56 PM): i thought i was john cusack?
ericattik (3:04:17 PM): he was the nicer more forgiving one
ericattik (3:04:26 PM): jack black was the mean snob![;)]()
ericattik (3:05:45 PM): i have a traffic meeting. brb. you are awesome!
ericattik (3:05:54 PM): (in a frustrating way)
itsalona (3:06:06 PM): you can punisgh me later and show me whos boss
itsalona (3:06:22 PM): and i will put away my cutting scissors
itsalona (3:06:32 PM): and ill melt like a puddle in your arms....
itsalona (3:07:30 PM): thank
you for appreciating me for who I am. I thought I was way too off in
some crazy niche land for anyone to get me, but you get me. ![:-D]()
and I like this chat too ![;-)]()
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ericattik (3:12:45 PM): k I am back. in effect.
itsalona (3:12:52 PM): i am laughing at us
ericattik (3:13:06 PM): ridiculous
itsalona (3:13:17 PM): i think the best comment by you was:well I am not trying to shoot herion and nod off on the beach in Ibiza in 1982
ericattik (3:13:27 PM): HAHAHAHA
ericattik (3:13:34 PM): i was proud of that one
itsalona (3:13:38 PM): dood this chat should be in a book
itsalona (3:13:44 PM): i like that i'm your jack balck too
ericattik (3:13:53 PM): hahaha
ericattik (3:14:01 PM): at least a blog post
itsalona (3:14:07 PM): but i'm the one organizing my record colelction by emotion
itsalona (3:14:13 PM): more like john cuzack
ericattik (3:14:24 PM): if your blog was up I would make you post
itsalona (3:14:31 PM): i'm the more brooding one
